Seminar � Parfit on personal identity

Greg Detre

Wednesday, 31 May, 2000

Helen Seward from Victoria�s notes

 

theseus� ship � if you gradually replace the planks one by one with new ones

most people say: the ship stays the same, i.e. a completely re-constructed ship is still the same as the old one

but if you tell them: all the old planks have been kept �

this competitor ship throws our original intuitions

it�s our names and use of language giving us problems

what�s it to say that �this is this� and �that is that� � in the case of a ship, for example, it�s arbitrary

in the case of a mind, it should be different because it�s self-identifying (�it can say that I am me�)

but, you have the problem of gradual unnoticeable changes

 

yes, but if someone can retain their identity after having their corpus callosum cut, then they can be a single person with a divided mind and two bodies

but if the two hemispheres are separate, how can they be one? how?

and, what about phineas gage

could he be said to have preserved his identity, even though he inhabited the same brain (give or take a few bits) and the same body? is he still the same person?

well, he does share the memories, but not the faculties + personality

 

Williams: psychological continuity isn�t one-one, so it can�t be a ground for speaking of identity

Parfit: when it is one-one, psychological continuity can be a ground for speaking of identity

 

parfit � talks about quasi-memories (seem to remember???) + quasi-intentions

doesn�t talk about character traits

 

psychological connectedness = matter of degree

(as opp to psychological continuity = yes/no)

 

identity = yes/no

but sometimes in problem cases, can be indeterminate ???

 

Locke + Butler debate: can�t analyse identity in terms of memory because memory presupposes identity

q-memory = natural next step

 

a memory doesn�t count unless the past experience is causally related to the memory � it�s not enough for them simply to match

 

psychological connectedness = holding of direct psychological relations

diagram � splits and splits selves like branches on a tree

direct, e.g. q-memory and the experience q-remembered

(not transitive)

past vs ancestral cells

 

Reid�s Brave Officer � objection to Lockean theory of personal identity

a general in later life remembers being a brave officer who captured a flag

the brave officer can remember being a boy swiping apples from the orchard

but the old general can�t remember being a boy

general + boy � psychological continuity, but not continuity (at least not in memory)

 

mad scientist � clones himself, then sends off the clones on kamikaze missions

they are psychologically continuous (but fission is different)

should have equal regard for all of them � but we only care about the one we turn out to be, as Parfit says

but he claims that psychological continuity is all that matters???

 

if you want to attack Parfit, might have to go back to the Shoemaker case

I am more intimately related to my body, not just as a brain in a body � it wouldn�t be me if I was in a different body

empirical facts relating brain to its housing body

just because a brain transplant is conceivable (as mind-body zombie distinctions seem conceivable), doesn�t mean that there isn�t a systematic and intimate unseparable brain-body relation

what about if you sew a monkey�s head onto another�s body � isn�t the same monkey � what a weird question

because we have a 1st person view, we can�t view humans in the same way as monkeys

the question of personal identity might not have an answer

 

Questions

why does he assume that half a brain in each body will preserve psychological identity?

why can�t/won�t they each take on their own identity

 

what is psychological connectedness?

 

fusion = like having a full-grown child???

natural division = cloning???

Parfit � fission preserves some spatiotemporal continuity

 

think of future selves more like you think of others � implications for other minds (ancestrally related to self???) and for my future selves